Snapping them out of this mindset is going to be a challenge
Ricky Hale and Council Estate Media
February 25, 2025
Ricky Hale and Council Estate Media
February 25, 2025
We have a problem. That problem is a huge number of people who are so brainwashed, they prefer the idea of World War III to the idea of peace. It seems ridiculous when you type it out, and those people who cheer for World War III would no doubt accuse me of a strawman.
“Of course we would rather have peace!” they would say. “All good people want peace!” And they would be absolutely sincere as they argued back. Yet those same people are furiously arguing against peace and in favour of continued war with Russia.
They are arguing that we can’t let Putin win, that he can’t come out of this with any sort of victory. What they mean is the status quo, which includes Putin controlling slivers of Ukraine populated by ethnic Russians, is unacceptable and this land should be won back. Most of them mean this as a minimum. Many want to go further and see the collapse of the Russian Federation. They are calling for World War III.
What this boils down to is that in spite of everything, many fundamentally see the world in terms of the goodies (freedom-loving, mostly white, democracies) and the baddies (Putin and everyone else). Strangely, these people will sometimes concede points that undermine this position.
“Of course we would rather have peace!” they would say. “All good people want peace!” And they would be absolutely sincere as they argued back. Yet those same people are furiously arguing against peace and in favour of continued war with Russia.
They are arguing that we can’t let Putin win, that he can’t come out of this with any sort of victory. What they mean is the status quo, which includes Putin controlling slivers of Ukraine populated by ethnic Russians, is unacceptable and this land should be won back. Most of them mean this as a minimum. Many want to go further and see the collapse of the Russian Federation. They are calling for World War III.
What this boils down to is that in spite of everything, many fundamentally see the world in terms of the goodies (freedom-loving, mostly white, democracies) and the baddies (Putin and everyone else). Strangely, these people will sometimes concede points that undermine this position.
Many will concede that we are supporting a genocide in Gaza. Many will concede that we are involved in constant wars to control global resources and maintain western hegemony. Many will concede that we overthrow leaders who disobey the empire and install puppets. However, they switch that thinking off when it comes to Ukraine.They will glare like you have committed a heresy if you point out the West helped overthrow two democratically-elected leaders in Ukraine.
They will think you have committed treason if you point out we built 12 spy bases in Ukraine to wage a covert war on Moscow. And until recently, they would have lynched you for using the term “proxy war” because - and this is the most liberal phrase ever - using that term robs Ukraine of its agency!
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They will think you have committed treason if you point out we built 12 spy bases in Ukraine to wage a covert war on Moscow. And until recently, they would have lynched you for using the term “proxy war” because - and this is the most liberal phrase ever - using that term robs Ukraine of its agency!
Finish Council Estate Media on Substack.